1881, you never told us you have a son out in California!


I don’t believe he was concerned with that. Not according to the info I’ve seen. Looking into where students of color are being failed by the system shouldn’t have anything at all to do with matching race to IQ. Unacceptable premise.




It doesn’t say what conclusions were drawn. I see an inference of intent.


If you taught High School Trout Fishing and the School’s star quarterback dynamited a lake for his final fishing vlog, give him a good grade after you just spent 2 weeks going over various trout rods and techniques and pros and cons of various lures and so on?


…because there are two things which may be happening but no way, on the surface of things anyway, to know which is playing how much of a roll. Some people simply are inherently more capable intellectually, and…IQ tests also favor those with more book lernin.


Did you teach him that’s how you fish?


Or online IQ tests are generally stupid and meaningless :slight_smile:


The project that started the controversy was titled “Race and IQ.” It raised the hypothesis: “If the average IQs of blacks, Southeast Asians, and Hispanics are lower than the average IQs of non-Hispanic whites and Northeast Asians, then the racial disproportionality in (HISP) is justified.”

The controversial project also included a bibliography and quotes from five books, one a text from 1904 called “The Essential Kafir” that argued South African blacks were intellectually inferior to whites. The term “kaffir” has since evolved into a racial slur in South Africa, where it is sometimes referred to as the “k-word.”

I’m still going with "The little prick.:


Okay and what if after testing the HYPOTHESIS the kid discovered there was no correlation and it’s not justified? Would that have been ok or should kids not ask, test, challenge and explore?

Isn’t that exactly what you want from a student or are they only allowed to test approved subjects in rigorously defined ways?


Read the article. The kid is a damn racist. That’s why he went to a 1904 book about kafirs and got his results from a small sampling of people who did online bs.

There is nothing appropriate about what he did. NOTHING.


I did read the article.

The KID did a science experiment. People freaked the fuck out because it’s a socially touchy subject.

What was learned? Don’t rock the boat. Keep your mouth shut about racial issues. Don’t follow your curiousity. Etc.

It’s honestly the response that’s worrisome.


You know what the real problem is - anything that suggests inequality between races/sub-races is racist and totally not cool at all.
Personally I’m just thankful that not being able to run the 40 in a fast time isn’t a criteria for non-selection in the NFL draft. I’d hate to have to think through how to run the distance in under 5 seconds.


No. I completely disagree. His premise was flawed and his teacher should have guided him toward posing the hypothesis is a more scientifically grounded fashion. But what do I know. I’m just a shitty teacher.


What if the kid wanted to do a project extolling the virtues of rape?


I won’t disagree with you that there was a teaching failing in all of this but like I said, teachers pawn science projects off on kids to do at home, on their own time, or just to torture parents with in general.

Either way, as a teacher, in your professional and learned opinion, if this kid isn’t a rampant racist as you suggest, what do you think he will take away from this scientific experience other than what I’ve outlined? Do you think in the media and through social comment is the way to handle the mistakes some kid made on a fucking science project?


I would LOVE if kids looked up the virtues of rape. They won’t find any but I sure do want them finding that out in any way possible.


No good teacher would just let a student do whatever s/he wants without performing any teacherly duties whatsoever.


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Again, I agree there is a shitty teacher behind this. It looks like a shitty school too.


As a Jewish Eurasian I guarantee I have the biglyest IQ of all.