Why do we have this thread when we donât approve of Chris Matthews? Itâs okay to make bad jokes for us but not okay for people on tv?
Thatâs the reason i put it hereâŚits imho a pandemic tp hoarding joke. But the model being a certain color, I thought here would be the place to put it to defuse judgements of racism.
Maybe thatâs me whitesplaining.
But that aside, point taken, i will study on it.
Iâm not talking about you, but the whole thread.
I donât know if you noticed but Iâve stayed away without saying anything for a long time.
The sexism thread is similarâŚI donât participate in that much either.
We canât move forward without either everyone chilling out and having the same standards for everything or stopping this kind of stuff everywhere.
Sanitize or STFUâŚ
Itâs hard out here for a W.A.S.P. these days.
What do you call a Native American ghost who plays accordion?
Polkahauntus
The thread has been up over five years, 126 replies, about 25 posts a year or TWO posts a month on average. Why are you deciding just now to not only fuss about it but also virtue signal and conclude with an imperative sentence? Thatâs a really serious question
The misogyny thread OTOH has only been sitting there for three years, and if I ever get around to splitting out the argument between Lotus and Wabbit {AND your handful of posts not liking its existence} it will only amount to about ONE post a month âon topic.â The impetus for creating this thread was a suggestion by Starling (who at the time was an active member.)
Interestingly enough, the said argument between Lotus and Wabbit was partly about the use of the imperative mood in a complaint. Might be worth a read.
Because many here were virtue signaling about Chris Matthews when we have this here?
Too difficult to figure out?
Iâll necro another post to show you how we traditionally have asked the forum operator to make changes in how the forum is run.
It may not be until in the morning.
Why is a person who plays the piano called a pianist but a person who drives a racing car not called a racist?
Steve Wright
Hmmm. It occurs to me, in the South they call it a racer, and a pianer.
I have white privilege. I grew up poor and I donât feel like anyone ever gave me anything, but I still have white privilege. If youâre white, you have that same privilege. You had the privilege of not being afraid by stepping outside. If you want to help fight racism, the first thing you need to recognize is your privilege.
Itâs not enough for white people to not be racist. White people now have to, need to be anti-racist. You need to speak out. Itâs not enough that you âdonât see race,â and youâre probably lying when you say that. Itâs OK to see race. But what you and I need to do is to join the fight against racism.
George Floyd was killed by police. Before they killed him, the police tortured him. They tortured him for 9 minutes in public, in broad daylight and in front of a crowd. The police believed they could get away with it. So far, they kinda-sorta have gotten away with it. While the cop who killed George Floyd and the three others who stood by and watched were all fired, none have been arrested or charged for any crimes. That is white privilege. Itâs also police privilege.
While Donald Trump, as president (sic) has said he didnât like what he saw, he has refused to say the police should be arrested or charged. Keep in mind, heâs screamed for President Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Congressman Adam Schiff, and even MSNBC Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough to be charged and arrested. That is white privilege along with moronic privilege.
When white people see whatâs going on and they have more to say about a riot and burning businesses than they do about the killing of George Floyd, that is white privilege. That is also racism.
Itâs white privilege to look at burning buildings and to just pass it off as not having anything to do with the killing of George Floyd.
Refusing to try to understand why a building is set on fire after the murder of a back man by police is white privilege. You donât have to approve of a riot, but you need to understand where itâs coming from. You need to understand why. Itâs more than an opportunity to steal stuff or set the world on fire. And trust me, when that building is a police station, itâs a statement. Itâs a loud statement and you still may not hear it.
Itâs white privilege to scream having to wear a mask in public is a violation of your liberty and civil rights while not fighting for other people when their right to vote has been taken away.
Itâs white privilege to claim youâve never had white privilege.
Itâs white privilege to look out your window and look forward to the day that we can socialize with friends, go to a bar or a restaurant, and return to normal.
When a black American looks out their window and see police killing another black man, they see we are returning to normal.
And when we can all go back outside, it will be back to normal for them because they donât have our privilege.
White people, you have white privilege. You couldnât get rid of it if you wanted to. But you can use it to help our fellow Americans get that same privilege. The racist dog lady weaponized race. Weaponize your white privilege for our fellow citizens because itâs just as much their country as it yours.
Itâs not enough to not be racist. Be anti-racist.
~Clay Jones
Itâs also not okay to avoid those places that make you uncomfortable as a white person and pretend that you arenât racist when you are. When you see a whole class of individuals, be it for the sports team they support, for the place they live or for the poverty in some of those places.
You canât be an ally as long as they are the âotherâ.
Iâm sure Clayâs or my understanding is not complete.
Itâs an excellent start.
I canât claim to totally understand race issues in our country. But I understand enough to know that you have to be able to identify racism before you can start to understand race issues.
For example: The president (sic) of the United States doesnât see his own hypocrisy when it comes to race. He didnât just endorse white gun nuts storming Michiganâs state capitol building. He egged them on. He tweeted to the governor of that state to âmake a dealâ with the protesters because they were âgood peopleâ who are angry. Contrast that with protesters in Minneapolis. Donald Trump tweeted, âWhen the looting starts, thatâs when the shooting starts.â Those in Michigan wearing MAGA shirts with signs saying they want haircuts, and a few with nooses and Nazi imagery, were âgood peopleâ to Donald Trump. Those in Minneapolis are âthugs.â
In case youâre a Republican, âthugâ is the new N-word. Oh, wait, if youâre a Republican, you already know that. Itâs why you use it so often.
I donât totally understand looting. I donât condone looting and vandalism. But I do realize it is a form of protest. If you argue itâs not, then I encourage you to take a history course and refresh your memory on the Boston Tea Party. Even then, the white rioters dressed up as minorities. Youâre upset about looting and vandalism but you were also pissed off about the black football player taking a knee. Donald Trump said âfire that son of a bitch.â Donald Trump never said to strike a deal with Colin Kaepernick, who is still unable to get a job in the National Football League.
There is a huge problem with race in this nation. Direct evidence of that is the fact Donald Trump is president. Donald Trump is a racist. If Donald Trump isnât a racist, then what the hell qualifies as racism?
Over 30 million people in this nation voted for Donald Trump in 2016. About that many say theyâll vote for him again in 2020. People who vote for Donald Trump wonder why racism is problem in this nation while racism isnât a deal-breaker for them. They wonder why racism is a problem while they support a man who shouts âsend them backâ to their âshithole countries.â
People say the racist cop who killed George Floyd is an exception. Not all police are racists. We should trust the police. Then, the Minnesota State Police arrest a black journalist (leaving the white ones untouched) then later state they let him go after verifying his credentials. Yet, he was on TV showing them his credentials. That was not one cop lying about arresting a black journalist. That was the entire department lying about arresting a black journalist. The lie was the State Policeâs official statement. Tell me again why we can trust the police? They canât even stop lying during a race riot. Do you want to solve race problems and distrust with the police? Start by being honest.
It took days for there to be charges against the cop who killed George Floyd. Even then, there are only two charges. Black Americans know if the shoe was on the other foot, it wouldnât have taken days for there to be charges and there would be a lot more than two. They also understand that as deals are made, charges are reduced. As one black American pointed out on CNN last night, A black suspect will start with 15 charges and hope to get down to two. With George Floydâs killer, heâs already at two. Whatâs it going to be reduced to?
And you wonder why cities are burning. The entire system is broken in this nation.
Before you can fight racism, you have to be able to spot it. White America is failing.
~Clay Jones