Texas Shooting


#183

No one but you knows what you INTENDED but those who read the post are of course likely to INFER intention other than what you THOUGHT you said. It would surely not be the first time forum readers misunderstood your INTENT, but that’s a problem you’re free to keep ignoring if you wish.


#184

tl;dr :wink:

Here’s my take: My life sucks and it’s someone else’s fault, probably an “other” of some sort.


#185

This is where BigDukeSix would insert that great anthem “Born In The USA”


#186

After which I would thank him for his service.


#187

I have to deal with this in pieces.

These problems have been going on before old white guy ran things and extends far beyond white guys running things. I’m happy to keep this in an American context if you prefer but I’m not sure I agree.

I understand the patriarchal power struggle extends beyond as well but I’m not sure which piece you are specifically applying.


#188

I’m not sure I understand your post, but two things:

  1. Old white guys have ALWAYS run things.
  2. I’m speaking of the US but I’m pretty sure that’s true pretty much elsewhere except when the old guys are tan or yellow.

#189

That’s my point. There’s no such thing as an old white brown guy.

But the old white rich guys aren’t the ones shooting up churches.


#190

Looks like they prefer country western concerts.


#191

The exception isn’t the rule.


#192

Old rich guys don’t usually do the shooting, Starling. And when they hire it done there usually isn’t an audit trail. That hardly means they aren’t involved, though.


#193

I’m in agreement with you until here.

Although I agree that this problem is far more complicated than gender, it is predominantly (98%+) a problem plaguing men. Women have the same ability to access firearms as men do in the US yet they aren’t committing mass shootings. Although it’s possible, it’s not happening while we are seeing an increase in men committing these crimes.

When looking at crime, we look at three things - motive, means and opportunity. Access to firearms only satisfies the means. Rather than focusing on the how, we need to look at the motives. Those extend past military service, trauma and poverty.

In reading about the actions of terrorists, who generally commit or attempt to commit acts of mass murder, experts have identified a general hatred for society, a sense of not belonging, lack of connection to society, hopelessness, frustration, and a feeling of impotence. Some of these traits are seen in those exhibiting signs of mental illness as well.

If we couple the above feelings with the prevalent behaviour of men not seeking medical, emotional or psychiatric supports, it’s not hard to see how shit can go sideways very quickly.

To conclude this post, I think the problems extend far beyond power, military, and gun control. This is further supported by those who opt to mow down people with cars rather than shoot them with guns. The means vary but does the factors that drive motive really change that much? I don’t think they do.


#194

Of course not but how is it they are able to recruit young men to do their dirty work? Is it because young men are looking for belonging, direction, a role model, and to curb their feeling of impotence as I just outlined? I’m going to outright say yes.


#195

What if he just hates those cans?


#196

No, but more mature men have the potential for growth but not all of them do.

If you didn’t write the script, then smack the person who is peddling that nonsense for me please.
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It is what it is. It’s human nature.


#197

Mass shootings ARE exceptions, Starling.


#198

Fair enough but violence commited by men isn’t.


#199

And Lion, there have been over 300 mass shootings in the US this year alone. Exceptions tend to be one offs not an everyday occurrence.


#200


#201

Yeah, simple math explains that.:slightly_smiling_face:


#202

They are almost a daily occurance in the US. Do you really see them as “exceptions” these days? Exceptions to what exactly?